Re: Standard?

Kim Davies (kim@staff.iinet.net.au)
Fri, 29 Nov 1996 07:56:40 +0800


Quoting admin@superhot.com:
|
| A couple of big defining differences here: ActiveAgent only sends one piece
| of email to only those people who have deliberately solicited the receipt of
| email, both in fact and in law. The junk mail that you receive in your PO

Not everyone's email address is placed online by themselves.

Many IAPs offer "fingering" of online users. One could envisage a
spam robot author could suck email addresses from that. I suppose you
would suggest that it's their fault because they use the Internet.

| box represents, collectively, entire forests destroyed almost daily, plus
| millions of gallons of burned fossil fuels to deliver these spent forests
| to your door so that you can place them in the landfill, even if you
| liked/wanted and purchased the product! Unwanted email is merely a *delete*
| button away from the bit-bucket.

Ahh, ok, so junk email is not as bad to the environment so it's better.

It takes me a matter of seconds to discern real mail from junk mail
in my letter box. It's quite obvious what is "junk" and what isn't.
Why can't their electronic counterparts make the same distinction?

| No destroyed forests, no toxic effluent
| from paper mills, no massive amounts of burned fossil fuels delivering the
| paper across the world, no clogged landfills ... etc.

Ahh yes, use junk email and the world will be a better place. There are
still destroyed forests and toxic effluent - that ain't going away.

| >From an environmental standpoint, far from trying to prohibit *junk email*
| it should be a national imperative and a congressional mandate that all
| commercial marketeers *must* use electronic messages and immediately cease
| and desist the planet destroying snail mail practices. All net citizens

Do you work for a hard drive manufacturer? telco?

| should accept as a moral imperative the *hassle* of having to delete even
| 100s of unwanted/uninteresting emails per day. ISPs should require it in
| their service contracts, that all users, in order to take an active and
| positive step in mitigating one of the major environmental crisis' today,
| must willing receive (and delete) all commercial email. If each and every

Yes, I will pay my ISP to be forced to read junk mail. Excellent idea!

| Exactly, if you don't want public contact, don't give public access. Its
| called *setting permissions* - hello? Any sysops remember that chapter...?

Just because people are listed in a phone book doesn't mean they
want junk mail. Why would someone want the same on the net?

(offtopic) kim

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